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Polybutylene Pipe. 60 Seconds in Real Estate Cary NC

Thousands of homes in the Cary NC area were built with polybutylene water supply lines. Some buyers agents panic over polybutylene and push their clients to over-react, but I don’t see it as a deal-breaker.
The buyer may be passing up a fine home needlessly. Buyers agent and the listing agent should know the cost of a replumb and be able to discuss it, even if the system has not shown evidence of problems.

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Polybutylene Water Supply Lines



Thousands of homes in Cary NC neighborhoods, built from the mid-1980's through the mid-1990's were plumbed with polybutylene water supply lines.

 

Polybutylene Pipe

 

Polybutylene water line systems have a history of higher than expected failure, to the point that the manufacturers settled a class-action law suit with an agreement.
That said, I don't consider Polybutylene Pipe  to be a deal-breaker if found in an otherwise desirable home.  Location, Lot, and Layout are still most important.  And, if the system is working without issues known to the homeowner, the existence of Polybutylene piping in a Cary NC home is not even a material fact that is required to be disclosed to a potential buyer.  A buyer may be able to negotiate for credit for replumbing, or an agreeable price that considers the cost of replumbing.  Again, thought, the existence of polybutylene piping is not a violation of any building code, and is not a material defect.

 

As a real estate agent working for buyer clients, I tell them that, to the best of my ability, they will not write an offer on a home from the 1980's or 1990's until we determine whether it was plumbed with polybutylene water lines.
I try to help them avoid paying a home inspector a few hundred dollars to tell them that they have PB pipe, particularly if they consider it a deal breaker.
A photo of PEX water lines (the white pipes) connecting a replacement water heater to an existing polybutylene piping system:

 

Polybutylene Pipe

 

Identifying Polybutylene water supply piping can be accomplished in a few different ways. 

Often it can be seen coming through a wall at the water heater.  Sometimes it is exposed at laundry room connections, or under sinks or vanities.

My preferred method is to look in a crawl space or basement to see what water line material was used.

For further information on polybutylene piping uses and issues, here is a great article by Kenny Hart, former plumber, real estate agent, and home inspector.


First time home buyers find the structural “Sweet spot.”

Blog fodder:

Home built in 1979.

In the structural real estate realm, that means:

Copper water lines, not the celcon-fitting class-action polybutylene that came along a couple of years later.

Solid hardboard siding, not evil class-action hardboard.

Copper wiring, not the aluminum branch circuits from the mid-’70′s.

No lead-based paint disclosure or tangible concerns, as in 1978 homes and earlier.

And this home was very affordable!

All in all, pretty cool, we thought!